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Episode 38. Politics & Musicals: 20 Years of HAIRSPRAY with David Armstrong's "Broadway Nation"
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Episode 38. Politics & Musicals: 20 Years of HAIRSPRAY with David Armstrong's "Broadway Nation"

Dirty Moderate with Adam Epstein

This episode is a little different… It’s a collab with David Armstrong’s Broadway Nation.  

David Armstrong’s Broadway Nation is all about the history of the Broadway Musical, and today we combine forces to discuss the many connections and intersections between the Broadway Musical and American politics. 

Twenty years ago Adam and David had the tremendous good fortune to both be involved in the creation of the Tony Award winning “Best Musical” HAIRSPRAY.  Adam was part of that show’s original New York producing team, and David was the Producing Artistic Director of Seattle’s 5th Avenue Theatre where the show received its World Premiere prior to Broadway.  They use that joyous, delightful, and very political show to kick off our conversation.

Most people probably don't think of musicals as being particularly political.  But Adam and David both believe that over their 125+ year history, Broadway musicals have more often than not been overwhelmingly political, and have usually – overtly or subliminally – strongly advocated for democratic, humanist values and ideals that many people would label as being “progressive” or “liberal”. 

Adam and David have both taught courses on the history of the musical using the “American studies” concept that you can't separate US politics from its history, culture, and literature.  And both have used the history of the musical to explore such topics as: what it means to be American, what it means to be “othered”, and how and why the “American experiment” has included, marginalized or excluded certain people and groups?  

Interestingly, many of those otherwise marginalized groups were included in the invention of the Broadway musical and contributed to not only moving the form forward, but also too instilling in it these progressive and humanist values. 

During the first half of the conversation, Adam and David discuss in detail the inspiration, early development, pre-Broadway tryout, and triumphant Broadway opening of Hairspray, as well as it’s political messages and ongoing impact and legacy.  After the break, they expand their discussion to the inherent political messages of other hit shows including Oklahoma, Guys & Dolls, Les Miserable, HAIR, Cabaret and Annie!

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Dirty Moderate showcases the people who cut through the nails on a chalkboard din of the modern-day American political scene. We promote rigorous analysis and lively debate with individuals on both sides of the aisle and beyond. Our host, Adam Epstein, is a Tony Award-winning former Broadway powerhouse who can go toe-to-toe with anyone on politics as he did on Trish Regan Primetime on FOX News every Thursday night in 2019 as the lone non-conservative panelist delivering his centrist perspective with grit, intellectual prowess, and undeniable charm. Past guests of the podcast like Repiblican strategist, Stuart Stevens, Congressman, Adam Kinzinger, Author, John Pavlovitz, and Correspondent, Trish Regan all range in perspective by design, and no two conversations are alike, but the one vitally important thing all of our guests have in common is they fight like hell for Democracy. • Produced by Blurry Cowboy Media • Theme Song by @brettgarrisonepstein • Subscribe to Substack at www.dirtymoderate.com • Tweet the Show: @dirty_moderate
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