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John Pavlovitz
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John Pavlovitz

John Pavlovitz is a writer, pastor, and activist from Wake Forest, North Carolina. John was one of our very first guests on Dirty Moderate over 2 years ago, and we were thrilled to spend time with this deep thinking, generous, loving, and spirited human again.

A 25-year veteran in the trenches of local church ministry, John is committed to equality, diversity, and justice—both inside and outside faith communities. His work is a testament to finding meaning not only in our politics but in our lives. 

John’s latest book, “Worth Fighting For” is a primer for all things human, humane and compassionate. John knows it’s hard to always stay good but that’s no excuse for not trying. His latest book is aptly subtitled “Finding Courage and Compassion When Cruelty is Trending.” Adam and John have a searching, moving discourse about all of these essential ideas and more. 

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 Dirty Moderate Nation
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Dirty Moderate showcases the people who cut through the nails on a chalkboard din of the modern-day American political scene. We promote rigorous analysis and lively debate with individuals on both sides of the aisle and beyond. Our host, Adam Epstein, is a Tony Award-winning former Broadway powerhouse who can go toe-to-toe with anyone on politics as he did on Trish Regan Primetime on FOX News every Thursday night in 2019 as the lone non-conservative panelist delivering his centrist perspective with grit, intellectual prowess, and undeniable charm. Past guests of the podcast like Repiblican strategist, Stuart Stevens, Congressman, Adam Kinzinger, Author, John Pavlovitz, and Correspondent, Trish Regan all range in perspective by design, and no two conversations are alike, but the one vitally important thing all of our guests have in common is they fight like hell for Democracy. • Produced by Blurry Cowboy Media • Theme Song by @brettgarrisonepstein • Subscribe to Substack at www.dirtymoderate.com • Tweet the Show: @dirty_moderate
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